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I don’t consider myself a prude. Not even close. But I do feel like Jeremiah when he wrote that the people –who God was about to punish, by the way– had ‘forgotten how to blush’.
It is really not my intent to become a movie reviewer here. And after writing about my emotional reaction to Wonder Woman recently, I didn’t plan on writing about any other movies anytime soon. Then I went to see Spiderman: Homecoming on Friday.
I live with boys, so superhero movies are kind of a given around here. As with any movie we see, we do our homework to make sure we’re not walking in blind when it comes to content. (My two favorite sites to check are Kids in Mind and Internet Movie Database).
Spiderman is rated PG-13, and includes the expected few instances of inappropriate comments and scattered mild language. Not a big deal considering the ages of our kids.
What I did not expect in Spiderman was a comment that still has my head reeling today.
Let me say first–I enjoyed the movie overall. Solid plot, entertaining, well-done. If you decide to see it, I think you’ll enjoy it too.
But as with anything you watch, be prepared to discuss the content with your kids. When we do this, we are apprenticing them into adulthood, helping them form a Biblical worldview. Don’t miss these opportunities!
So what was the comment? Well, it was quick. Which is why I think reviewers missed it.
My 16 year old didn’t hear it. And because of that, even though I was sure of what I’d heard, I searched online to find a reference to it…just to be certain. I found a few sites that made reference to it (so I really didn’t make it up). One parental review site that I did find this scene on was Plugged In. They’ve not been my favorite in the past because they don’t seem to be as thorough, but I may have to give them another try!
A game that you might wish you didn’t know existed
Let me set it up a bit for you. Have you heard of a game called ‘F-M-K’? You identify, from a group of people, which person you would have sex with (F), which one you would marry (M) and which one you would kill (K).
Whatever you might think of this game, the idea of children playing it should disturb you.
In Spiderman, there’s a scene where 14 and 15 year old kids are in gym class. A group of girls is sitting on the bleachers, apparently playing this game.
One girl says, “I would ‘eff’ Thor…” and then goes on to describe who she would marry and kill from the Avengers. The conversation turns to Spiderman and that’s where your attention is supposed to go as well.
I, however, was stunned. I would ‘eff’ Thor?!
How many people read that line and gave it the green light before it appeared? How many people hear it and think it’s no big deal? … Maybe it isn’t a big deal. Kids talk about sex, after all…right?
A 14 year old girl saying that she’d like to have sex with a grown man. Nope. Definitely disturbing.
How long will we continue to sexualize young girls before we realize that it is not ’empowering’?
We’re creating a culture that tells young girls that they can and should dress as provocatively, talk as explicitly, and behave as flirtatiously as they can. And in return for this, they should expect men to respond with attention when they want it and stop at their command.
As strongly as I can say it…hear this: sexual assault is always wrong. Rape is always wrong. A man is always responsible when he forces sex upon a woman who says no. Always.
But can I tell you a story?
When my boys were young, my youngest would pick and prod at his older brother until he got a reaction. One of those times, big brother punched him and gave him a bloody nose.
In disciplining them, we told my eldest that he was wrong for punching his brother. We told him that he is responsible for his actions no matter what someone else does to provoke him.
Then we turned to little brother and said that if he pestered people constantly, he should expect them to react eventually. We told him that he is responsible for the consequences of his actions. “You can choose to keep picking, prodding, and poking with your words…but then you should expect to get punched in the nose.”
We are each responsible for our own actions and the consequences of our actions.
Responsible for writing a script, for example, that has a young girl saying she’d like to have sex with an adult man. Person after person responsible for reading the line and saying, ‘Yup, that’s totally appropriate.’
Maybe I am a prude after all.
Does this line disturb you, or is it just me?
Spiderman tends to be one of the superheroes that is especially attractive to little kids. If you are planning to take your kids to see Spiderman: Homecoming, please be sure to check one of the parental review sites I mentioned above. There is other content that is much more obvious than the one thing I addressed here. One that happens to be a personal pet peeve of mine: a comment is made about a teen boy looking at pornography (perpetrating the assumption that of course teen boys all look at porn all the time). For older kids, don’t miss the chance to talk with them about worldview.
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Susan Erwin says
My husband and I decided when our girls were toddlers that we were not going to allow them or ourselves to watch television shows or movies with immoral, ungodly content. Well, that ruled out almost everything (except older classics like Mary Poppins, The Sound of Music,etc) and that was 25 years ago. Although we live in a sinful world and we are all sinners, we felt convicted that we shouldn’t CHOOSE such for entertainment. We understood that when they became young adults they would be making their own choices, but as parents we had to make those hard decisions. We did research also as best we could. Maybe we are not prides, but set apart, striving to be holy as God calls us to be.
Susan Erwin says
Correction from previous comment- maybe we are not prudes rather than prides. Auto correct got me.
Susan says
haha! no problem 🙂
Susan says
Yes! We get that everyone sets different standards, and have had lots of conversations with our boys over the years about why we’ve set the ones we do. As they’ve become teens, the most convicting thing for me has been that if I don’t want them to watch something, then typically it’s not something I should watch either.
Dave says
Thus is a dumb and hypocritical article. “We don’t watch TV or movies.” And then go on to say ” we’re watching Spiderman and noticed.” Hypocrite. And how do you know the characters were 14? Keep protecting your kids like this and when they get into the real world they’re either going to be completely overwhelmed or get ran over by the real world they weren’t prepared for. Good luck
Susan says
Hi Dave,
Thanks for stopping by. I’m not sure where you got the idea that we don’t watch tv or movies. What I did say is that I don’t typically do a lot of movie reviewing here…and that’s true.
I assumed the characters were around 14 as they were in a middle school.
My boys were older when we saw this, so I wasn’t too concerned with them being ‘protected’ from the content. The reason I wrote the review was to give parents of younger kids some insight into the content of the film before they took younger children in case that was something that mattered to them.
I’ll tell you the same thing my husband and I told our boys as they grew up –> Every family makes different decisions about what they watch.
By writing this review I was simply providing information for parents who might appreciate it as they make those decisions for their young kids. Some parents trust the rating and head to the theater. We didn’t, we looked for reviews by people who had seen the film to get more insight so we could make the best decision for our family at whatever stage we were at.
I’m a big fan of preparing kids for the real world. But I get that people do that differently. Good luck to you as well!
Marvel Art says
yes, I do agree with you Susan.